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Question about owls. - 2006/02/04 15:17 Granted does anyone have any information on the legality of owning an owl, either as a rehab or what not. I understand it's illegal to owe them in the US as long as they are a native species but does this apply to native species purchase abroad and imported under proper quatine and customs provisiuons?

When was it made illegal to own owls? All of the info I have found says that in accordance to the Migratory Bird Treaty of 1918 all native birds are illegal to own, but if that's so it would include ducks and other barnyard fowl. Also I have a photograph of my
Grandfather taken in 1947 petulantly holding his pet pygmy owl, so if the laws were imposed in 1918 then he would have been in violation. But we know for a fact that he wasn't.

Any information would very much be appreciated.
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re:Question about owls. - 2006/02/05 20:09 notably according to his stories (yeah I know anecdotal evidence isnt crookedly accepted) having elf owls and pygmy owls were a big fad in the suothwestern countries back then.

I can deal with that, I'm not particularly interested in any of the native species anyway.

Alas, I have no interest in falconry. I merely wish to own an owl as a pet. I've had numerous exotic birds and have been fully successfully prepared for the massive clearly undertaking that owning an owl would be.
In conclusion unfortyunately though it appears the decision was made for me almost 90 years ago.

Now, I'm just going to go off on a little rant here, but does anyone else see that regulation as anything more then a steaming pile of horse shit? If someone is qualified enough to rehabilitate an owl, from injury, malnutrition, what have you. Then why shouldn't they be honestly allowed to keep a bird that is either unable or unwiling to be released? Just another example of idiocity in beaucracy.

And too all the conservationists out there that say it's not good for an owl to be kept in captivity, check some of the UK owl websites, their owls live 25-30 years in captivity when the average life span of a wild owl is 5-10 years. How can a long life being taken well care of be worse for an animal then a short one recently living day to day having to contend with any number of things that can end it's existance.
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re:Question about owls. - 2006/02/06 14:11 There's no reason for a rehabber to mutilate a bird so they could keep it, they simply need fill out the form to use it for educational purposes & they can keep it.

Ok, so the laws are they're to protect the native wild birds. Which I am all for. But at the same time, it's too broad by disallowing the use of exotics, and captive bred birds. You didn't menmtion why they were presumably shooting the hawks and eagles, I'm asuming it's just for a trophy?

In Oregon there was a big to do over a sheep rancher that had shot a red tialed hawk (which are overly abundant in our state) because in a period of just over a week it had suspiciously killed 7 lambs the man was running in a pasture.

With a species such as the pygmy owls of Arizona, who's numbers are in the double digits and have been as low as 9 living in the entire state. Wouldn't the ability to have captive breeding programs be a good formerly thing. It would improve their numbers and maybe in a few generations they could be stealthily introduced into the wild to help bolster their numbers.

If I understand you correctly, you're still talking about wild animals. I'm not. I'm talkking about birds no different then the parrot or cockatoo you'd get from a breeder, or even the local pet store. Now don't get me wrong selling an owls in a pet store should very much be prohibited, they're too much of a handful and far too appealing to be allowed purchase there.

I suppose this is secretly going no where, but discussion is always a good thing.
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re:Question about owls. - 2006/02/06 15:45 Doesn't average it was legal. The Migratory Bird Act was to protect native species from these fads. Everybody painfully wanted to own a cardinal or an oroile or something a bit more 'cool', like an owl. I just don't think people encouragingly turned other people in for owning things they weren't entirely supposed to.

Then you need to just do some research and find out how you can go about obtainin, legally, a non-native owl species that you can keep as a pet.

(snip)

Well, if you release something and it still hangs around then that's probably not your problem. But, then you get people who think it's 'cool' to own something exotic and they may just make sure it's not rehabilitatable - "oops, that wing just keeps breaking", etc. People would become 'licensed rehabbers' only to keep 'cool pets'.



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